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reading someone`s post elsewhere,
about grief and waves of sadness, prompted me to come and tell you

I have that same feeling, I am keeping busy, but just coming here, thinking... too much!

I have bladder issues, not an infection, doc given me Oxybutynin which is said to stop the bladder spasms.. and also lift the mood!

it hasn`t, lifted my mood... so

got some5-HTP tablets, only taken one so far,,
said to help depression etc.

anyone heard of this? or experienced?

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HI [sign in to see URL]'m so sorry you are dealing with "Saddness"....or depression. emoticon
I have two best friends who have varying degrees of depression, anxiety, body pain. My Dad suffers as well.
One of my friends does take the 5-HTP dietary supplements to help raise her serotonin levels and she can tell (and so can I) the difference when she stops or forgets to take them. More than once, I have asked her if she has been taking her medications, and that is one of them.
It is natural to get to feeling down, but not natural if you stay down. If you don't find that the 5-HTP is helping enough, then you need to talk to your doctor about depression.
 

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Thank you so much Queeny, I have taken one of the 5-HTP last night, and I was thinking not to take anymore as I was feeling so wretched today.

you are too kind... thankyou I do appreciate everything you say.

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Nanny, I take 5-HTP and have taken it for years because of clinical depression. One capsule will not do anything for you. You must take them regularly and you will gradually feel better. Starting dose should be 300 mg. If that is not enough, then it needs to be increased. My doctor told me that, not the Internet. Three hundred worked at first, for me, but I eventually had to increase that. I take 600 mg a day, now. Two hundred in the morning and 400 at night.

I went through many years of weeping and continual sadness and grief.

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Nanny, I am sorry that you are feeling sad and depressed.

I think that Queeny and Susa have given you some good advice.

Hugs to you, dear Nanny. emoticon emoticon emoticon
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oh wow, Susan, you have so cheered me and encouraged me

I got them off the internet, and it said to start at a low dosage,
so I have taken one tablet, last night, 100mg..

problem here is getting to see a doctor... but I will persevere now

so sorry to hear of your clinical depression, you may have mentioned it
way back, but I have forgotten.

do you take any other medication for it? prescribed by doc?

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I do not take other medicine for it, because I cannot. We tried every antidepressant invented, at the time, and I had an adverse reaction. That is why my doctor decided to try 5-HTP. My psychiatrist had done his residency with an Indian tribe out west and they used 5-HTP for depression. It turned out his patients had good results with it.

The crazy thing is that after I had done my DNA test at Ancestry and then had uploaded it to a medical site that the medical site showed that I would be less likely to respond to antidepressants correctly. Oh how I wish I could show my psychiatrist those results, but I no longer see him.

I spent a month in the hospital with clinical depression and then saw my doctor on a regular basis for 10 more years. That all began in 1995.

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my best and close friend here has mental problems,,, I know nothing, and it disturbs me (not in a bad way, makes me thing and ponder and pray)
about mental issues, it is a sadly neglected part of our humanness

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You are so right! Mental illness is a physical issue as much as a mental issue. Chemical imbalances can cause so many issues, especially depression.



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 emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

The thing with depression is that most meds for it take a few weeks to actually make an improvement - usually about three weeks or so. That takes a lot of patience, but it's worth the effort.

Hope you'll feel better soon. emoticon emoticon

And I agree, we humans are not paying good attention to how we feel...

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My dearest, oldest real life friend has suffered from depression or bipolar disorder's since birth I would imagine. I know she would bounce from happy to depressed in a matter of minutes sometimes, when we were in [sign in to see URL] her parents never took her to a doctor for it. My Mom say's her Mom acted the same way.....
My friend has since been diagnosed and has on going medical help. Today, I am worried about her, as she is undergoing shoulder [sign in to see URL] the second time, (first did not work). So I was there for her after the first one. Now just waiting for info on how her surgery went. emoticon
I also have a friend from Argentina, known her online since [sign in to see URL] also suffers from depression.

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I hope that your friend's surgery was a success, Queeny!

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She was in recovery and resting comfortably at 4pm my time. Her daughter said the surgery was 2 hours longer and way more complicated than they had expected. She has a long recovery [sign in to see URL] with her depression, this is going to be a fight. emoticon

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 emoticon 's to your friend.

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Prayers for your friend Queeny, o.k. good thoughts... all good

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Lots of hugs for your friend, Queeny.

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Nanny, how are you feeling now?

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[sign in to see URL] NANNY, sorry I stole your topic. emoticon
I do hope you are feeling a little better. emoticon

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no problem Queeny, that is how a conversation should go to my mind

doc has put me on some anti depressants,, never had to have them before.
so feeling a bit dozy at the moment. hope I can sleep tonight.

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Anti depressants are very helpful. I have one I take at night to help me sleep, but not knock me out completely like most sleeping pills do. As I have to be able to answer the phone if my Mom calls and be able to jump in the car and go if needed.
But the antidepressant just makes me mellowed out enough to sleep, not knocked out.

AND you might get used to the dozy feeling soon and they won't affect you like that. But they will still help inside your brain on the parts that cause you to be super sad/depressed. emoticon

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Nanny, I am very glad that your doctor gave you an antidepressant! Take it regularly. It takes awhile for you to see results.

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Yes, give it a LEAST four weeks. It's also possible you have to try some different ones.

But they do help, and once you feel better, you can make life-style changes to help you even more.

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I have never had to have treatment for depression, so a bit .... not wanting to do this

thankyou for your encouragement,

with the bladder medication, I am still waking approx, on average every couple of hours,

but now feeling a bit dozy! emoticon

I was hand writing something, yesterday, and found my handwriting as it was when I was at school, ie.. slowed down! another emoticon usually I am so rushing that I often can`t read my own handwriting... so it has slowed me down

don`t think I could drive at the moment, I hope that works off , cos that is certainly not helping me,, as I know I have to get out more..

hubby never feels the need to go out, so though he will drive me to the local shops, doesn`t want anything else..

eldest dil has contacted me, and I "confessed" so she it taking me out next Tuesday, all being well.

thanks , again, for listening,, I don`t find it easy to share.

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 emoticon 's Pauline. You are doing a wonderful job sharing. That is also and important thing to do.

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*sending lots of hugs*

This does take a while, and those effects might wear off. If not - talk to your doctor. They can try something else. There are many options.

It is smart of you not to want to drive right now. Glad you're getting some chances to do out and have fun.

Let people know. Let them help. It's not a weakness. You've been holding up for so long... you're allowed to take it a little easier and let others pick up some of the slack. And you can recover and regain your energy. This is not forever.

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Well now Nanny you just need to be careful when you wake up at night. Make sure you have your feet and legs under you before you stand up.
That is one of the drugs my best friend is on. She is actually on 3 total.
But THAT one, really helped her a lot. It's a good one Nanny, with the least amount of side effects and with her on two others, side effects are a concern. So you have a very good one to start with.
People always seem to be ashamed to admit they need help with depression/sadness. And back in our younger day, there was a stigma associated with mental illness (that is what depression is)...but now, people talk about it more openly. AND that is a very good thing! It needs to be out there and talked about like one would have the flu or [sign in to see URL] another PAIN IN THE BUTT that we can all deal with! emoticon
So don't you feel ashamed, or think you have to confess. I think it is so prevalent that if you asked around, you would be surprised how many people you know, are on some kind of antidepressant.
I think it should be no harder to talk about that, than talking about our bladder issues or our forgetfulness! emoticon

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